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  1. Jiny

    Jiny New Member

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    You're right Beermonster, I've always noticed that the people who work hardest are those who would have you believe that they just turn up unprepared and hit lucky at the exam.
     
  2. Naxalite

    Naxalite New Member

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    heh, yeah i worked my arse off like a sad graduate (rolling eyes right now)... In fact i worked so hard that I was so prepared and ready for the exams i didn't fret!

    You go buy all the books you want, just don't come crying when you got no money to go to the boat party or summer ball.
     
  3. BeerMonster

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    i find it particularly worrying that someone with your attitude will be allowed to treat patients.

    however, the point of this forum is not for it to turn into a slagging match so i bow to your infinitely superior knowledge about how easy the first year is and how no one need do any work and instead we should all socialise with the likes of you on boats etc.
     
  4. spk76

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    Says it all really.

    It depends what your standards are - to do the best you can or just to scrape a pass.

    Although, saying that, I can't say I worked too hard for my first degree...
     
  5. EastEnd grad

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    Like everything in life it is about a balance, too much work and no play makes one a dull person but at the same time you cannot be a man - or lady at that - of indulgence, it desensitises you to fun!

    Really looking to beginning the course in Sep and too meeting fellow students, patients, clinicians, academics and scientists!

    Till then;
    "Party on dudes" and "Be excellent to each other”!
     
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  6. Spencer Wells

    Spencer Wells Noodly Doctory Moderator

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    I echo those sentiments, there's plenty of time to worry about med school and work when you're actually there, until then, enjoy yourselves.
     
  7. SaiG

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    Can someone do me a good deal for there old anatomy bookz preferably female cos they usually not defaced if u can pm me pleeezzzzz this list is gna put a dent on ma life savings ...flop!
     
  8. theguru

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    Spoken like a true med student! its good advice. its all about economising when you got a hangover. Getting up for embryology vs 1 hr in bed, there's only going to be one winner. It is not uncommon at all for people to do no histology and no embryology at all during preclinical. The way the exams work its a managable risk that gives you more time for mark heavy subjects. Its easy to say you'll go te everything in a forum but when you've spent a nite on the grog its a different matter.... you'll learn. Dont get me wrong everyone works hard in the end - but don't bust your nuts 24/7.
    The histology book costs 40 quid - rip off, they test you on slides they have already shown you and all the slides they show you get put on the histology website - gratis.
    D&P get them - the exams are set by the author and they photocopy the pictures out of the book for your end of years.
    Bender - if you like lining his pockets buy his book (he doesn't need it - he's got a yellow Fararri), otherwise pop down to the boldero and get his pearls of wisdom - gratis
    Ethics and Law - annoyingly they place quite a lot of marks on this gem. Don't fret, wait until the end of the year, go to the revision PDSsession and you'll get all you need on a handout to pass the exam.

    Oh and for those who don't know LAPT, LAPT, LAPT...... you'll find out
     
  9. Spencer Wells

    Spencer Wells Noodly Doctory Moderator

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    Bender actually drive a Renault Magane. And Prof. P doesn't actually set the anatomy exam, the med dems do (so it was Neil and Theo this year).
     
  10. theguru

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    True say - anatomy i take the hit i was geting over excited, but bender does drive a yellow farrari, is married to brenda cross, smokes a pipe and apparently got arrested in america for hiding in bushes and taking pictures of fat people for his fluids and nutrition lecture slides - the limits the man goes to for his students know no bounds.*

    *some of the above may be slight or complete lies
     
  11. Spencer Wells

    Spencer Wells Noodly Doctory Moderator

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    Well the photo bit is true, I'll give you that.
     
  12. Sarah121

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    so many books!!

    hi looking for the books on amazon and there are newer editions of some of the books should i be buying these or the versions on the book list??!? I didnt know whether these versions were put down for a reason.
    Hope someone can helpme out!!

    Im starting UCl in a few weeks if you didnt guess!!

    Thanx
    Sarah
     
  13. spk76

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    Sometimes you will be expected to look up a specific diagram or something on a given page - but I imagine such important material would still be in newer editions.

    The only vital books for which diagrams are actually reproduced in exams are the Dean & Pegington Core Anatomy volumes, although you only need vol. 2 for the first year.

    David Bender's Nutrition and Metabolism is also pretty important, since many exam questions and PBL case studies are lifted straight from his pages.

    And the other essential book is Scambler's Sociology as Applied to Medicine - exam answers are more-or-less verbatim reproductions from this book.

    As for the other books on the reading list - most can be replaced with alternative titles and/or later editions. I hated Wheater's Functional Histology, for example (and don't bother buying the CD either), preferring
    Junqueira & Carneiro's Basic Histology.

    You will also need to buy the Embryonic Disk - there's no getting away from it, I'm afraid.

    Also, don't forget the Crash Courses, which are amazing, and my personal favourite - McMinn's Colour Atlas of Human Anatomy.

    And, don't feel like you need to rush out and buy all the books before the start of term. Wait and see which ones you really need as and when the subjects come up during the year. There will also be lots of opportunities to get second-hand copies from people in the years above you, as well as fresher's discounts at the local Waterstones and a permanent 10% off at Charing Cross Road Blackwells (if previous years are any guide).

    Only a couple of weeks to go!
     
  14. Sarah121

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    thanks - thats really helpful
    already ordered the core anatomy vol 2 but think will order the histology and mayb kumar n clark b4 i get there. Will wait till i get there for the rest!!
     
  15. spk76

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    You won't need D&P's Core Anatomy until after Christmas.

    They will pressurise you to buy Wheater's Histology but it really is not all that.

    I got Kumar & Clark from a friend and I suppose it was useful in a very minor way but it's really for the clinical years - it's expensive and inessential for the first year.

    Don't forget that there are several perfectly adequate libraries, as well. Few of the books you use in the first year will be useful beyond the first and maybe second years, so borrowing may prove to be a sensible, cheap option.
     
  16. xSamanthax

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    First years should use Tortora - Anatomy and Physiology - quite basic for later years but you can always sell it on and it has everything for yr1. Most students here have done nearly all their work from it.
     
  17. Spencer Wells

    Spencer Wells Noodly Doctory Moderator

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    I would disagree with you xSamanthax and go for the home grown books. Dean and Pegington for anatomy (considering that Chris Dean sets the anatomy exam questions) and Pockock and Richards for physiology (as Chris Richards sets the physiology exam questions.)
     
  18. Dr Trinny

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    Crikey, the webisite's changed since I was last on. Hmm...the books are actually cheaper than I thought - I was thinking a nightmarish £50-£60. But still expensive.

    Which topics did you guys find the hardest, and which books did you find the most useful? I'm sure you've answered this in different ways, but just to get one, quick answer than trying to look through all the previous entries.

    Thanks for all the help.

    Also, has the list remained the same (more or less)?

    Thank youuuuuuu again!
     
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  19. Spencer Wells

    Spencer Wells Noodly Doctory Moderator

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    Personally I found embryology to be the hardest, but that wasn't helped by the fact that I didn't go to the lectures. Fortunately for me, when I sat my preclinical exams it was easy to pass without knowing much embryology.

    I guess the most useful books are those that are essential reading (i.e. the ones that the people who are going to write your exam wrote, fortunately, they are also the leading textbooks in their fields.):

    Bender (biochemistry), Dean & Pegington (anatomy), Scambler (sociology), Pocock and Richards (physiology) and Rang, Dale, Ritter and Moore (pharmacology).
     
  20. Dahshan

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    Guys, for the first module 'foundations of health and disease', what book do we buy? I've already started the Nutrition and Metabolism book, but when it comes to Biology I'm a pretty slow learner and I also wanted to get a head start on the first module... 8 weeks is not enough for me.

    I know this thread is pretty old, but I'm only 18 :,) I'm going to start this September.
     

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