BSMS and Answer to your questions

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  1. randdom

    randdom New Member

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    Hopefully this will answer the major questions that you may have to save you posting a new thread.

    Background

    Brighton and Sussex Medical School (BSMS) took in its first intake of students in 2003. The course is five years long with the option for some students to take an intercalculated BSc between the third and fourth years, at the end of the course students graduate with a Bachelor of Medicine, Bachelor of Surgery (BMBS).

    Admissions information from www.bsms.ac.uk

    GCSE grades
    " We expect grades B in GCSE Maths & English. Re-taken grades or equivalent qualifications are acceptable as evidence of adequate literacy and numeracy.

    Otherwise while high GCSE grades are obviously encouraging, we shall primarily be considering applicants' most recent qualifications, so modest GCSE grades would be over-ridden by high AS level achievement or high actual or predicted A level grades."

    A-level requirements
    Chemistry and Biology should both be offered at AS with atleast one of them being offered at A2. There is no set requirement for which subject the third A2 should be in. Students are expected to achieve 340 ucas points or AAB with either Biology of Chemistry being an A.

    Resiting A-levels
    "BSMS policy is to accept re-taken grades or modules without penalty. BSMS decisions on individual applications will of course be guided by the academic referee's predictions about the grades likely to be achieved after re-taking. Candidates re-taking qualifications who wish to be considered for BSMS entry must declare in their UCAS application the A level grades for which they qualified at their first attempt."

    Graduates
    "Most graduate entrants offer Bioscience, Health Professional or Psychology degrees, but in principle a class 2(i) honours degree in any subject is acceptable as evidence of academic ability.
    However, all entrants, including graduate entrants, must have the required level of knowledge of Biology and Chemistry. This may be achieved through the degree itself; through having studied these subjects to A or AS level; or through an Access to Medicine course. If your degree includes good (class 2i-level) passes in modules such as Biochemistry, Pharmacology or Molecular Biology the requirement for a formal qualification in Chemistry will be waived."

    Access to Medicine Course
    "In 2003-2005 BSMS received successful applications from Access to Medicine candidates studying at Sussex Downs College, West Anglia College, City College Norwich, Lambeth College and City & Islington College."

    UKCAT
    BSMS require applicants to have sat the UKCAT prior to application

    All the information that I have quoted here along with much more can be found at http://www.bsms.ac.uk/studyingmedicine/faq1.htm


    Course and assessment

    The course at BSMS is an integrated systems course. Over the first two years students will study the cardiovascular and respiratory systems, Alimentary system, Neurology, Reproductive and locomotive systems and Immunology endocrinology each of these modules will last 10 weeks and are assessed through an essay and/or presentation on your Student Selected Component (SSC), an assessment based on topics covered in module tutorial groups and a 2 hours knowledge test. Each term you will also be assessed on anatomy in the form of a viva. Anatomy is taught at BSMS through a combination of lectures, dissection and imaging practical sessions. Throughout the first two years of the BSMS course there is a emphasis on relating what is being learnt to its clinical relevance. There is also a year long clinical module which runs in the first and second years and covers basic clinical skills linked to the modules studied this year as well as communication skills. During this module students will visit a GP practice in pairs once every 3 weeks, they will also go to a department in secondary care once every 3 weeks. In the first year GP partners are assigned a family with a new baby who they visit and observe how the baby develops and how the new baby impacts on the family. In the second year GP partners visit a patient with a chronic illness. The clinical module is assessed through a Portfolio where students have written up every visit they have had over the year, a patient report which is based on the visit to the baby or the chronic patient and OSCE examinations which assess the clinical skills learnt that year.

    The third fourth and Fifth years are the clincal years at BSMS. The third year starts with a five week long ACE course which teaches the clinical skill needed on the wards in further detail for example canulation. There is a focus on Anaethesia, Critical care and Emergency Medicine (ACE) and areas of these speciaties are covered through lectures and practical teaching sessions. After this 5 week training course students undertake a four eight week rotations through Medicine, Surgery, Obstetrics, gynaecology and paediatrics and Mental health and Elderly care. During these rotations more is learnt about the examination and specific clinical skills associated with the specialty. Throughout the third year there is also a year long course "The Scientific Basis of Medicine" which covers many areas of the underlying science in more detail than in the first and second years. There are also Student Selected components which are undertaken throughout the year. There is an option for some students to take an intercalated degree between the third and fouth years.

    The Fourth year starts with an eight week long elective where students go to experiance medicine is a different setting. This can be anywhere in the UK aswell as most places in the world. On the return the students go through specialist rotation in Musculoskeletal Medicine and Surgery, Oncology, Haematology & Palliative Care, Neurology & Neurosurgery, Dermatology, Ophthalmology/ENT and Infectious Diseases & HIV/GUM. There is also the opportunity to engage in research through a year long research project.

    In the fifth year there are two regional attachments as well as a module on the emergency patient. There is also a longer module on Professional and clinical studies.

    BSMS and Brighton

    BSMS is part of the Universities of Brighton and of Sussex, students are members of the unions of both universities. In the first two years students are taught on the Brighton Falmer campus and on the Sussex Campus. BSMS is a small medical school with a friendly atmosphere, although the first intake have just started their fourth year there is already a thriving medical society with sports teams, a history of medicine society, wilderness medicine society and many others.

    Hope that people find this helpful, I am going to try and make it a sticky. If anyone notices any mistakes please let me know. I have tried to make everything as accurate as possible.

    Further Information

    More information about Brighton University, Sussex university and BSMS can be found here and here

    Rachel (3rd year)
     
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  2. Lauren Jeffries

    Lauren Jeffries New Member

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    Hi

    I'n the prospectus it also states that they will also offer at ABB - how likely is this?

    Thanks:)
     
  3. rozzy

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    I think if you have a really good interview and they liked you very much, then in some cases they will give you a lower offer.
     
  4. randdom

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    While it isn't impossible I have only met one person so far who recieved and offer of ABB after that grade change (that isn't saying that there aren't more out there I don't know everyone in the year bellow an unfortunately have had little contact with the freshers so far) If you do very well in an interview it is always a possibility but it isn't something to rely on.
     
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    Hey, I have an interview there in 2 weeks and am quite nervous now. Any advice would be much appreciated! Is the interview very formal or is it more laid back ?
     
  6. randdom

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    Congratulations! The interview is pretty relaxed the way that you should look at it is that they want to see if you are right for the medical school and during the interview day they want you to see if the medical school is right for you. As long as you stay relaxed and what ever you do don't lie then the interview shouldn't be too hard. The experiance at the interview varies so wildly from person to person that I can't really give you more information than that. But just try to stay calm and maybe do a bit of reading about current medical issues and the course at BSMS. I wouldn't advice too much preparation though!
     
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    wat are the alls like at BSMS, macca?
    and the bar and restaurants on campus?

    cheers Randumz.
     
  8. Fonzie

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    To the person who got an interview (Amz i think) :

    Well done, when is it exactly? Are you an A2 student/resit.post-results or graduate?

    when did you submit your ucas form?
     
  9. Amz

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    hey, thanks. I am a reapplicant but got AAAa so i'm kinda taking a year out before going to uni. I sent my application on 1st October so not toooo early and not toooo late either.
    Will the interview be heavily based on your personal statement or issues regarding the nhs and how you think it will be like in the future etc? I assume both anyway. One problem I am finding is about how long each answer should be to each of the questions asked, I don't want to give too little if i can help it but also don't want to waffle.
    Any advice?
     
  10. randdom

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    Try not to worry about exactly what you will be asked in your interview because it does vary from person to person. From my experiance it was very lead by what I said so if you commented on something that you learnt in your work experiance they may pick up on that and ask you about that topic more broadly.
     
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    The halls that BSMS uses are variable just as they are at every university. BSMS students are offered a choice of halls from sussex and brighton unis where they will like with non-medics as well as usually one other. The quality of these halls vary depending on how much you are able/willing to pay. They range from a large room with ensuit and large communal living space to a smaller room without ensuit and a medium sized living space. However compared to some of the halls that I have seen even the worst is pretty reasonable, there are good sized comunal areas in all halls.

    Again the number of bars etc depends on the campus you are on. If you are on the Brighton falmer campus there is the rainforest cafe (which I really like) and I believe that the newly furbished bar as now opened though I haven't seen it. The susex campus has 4 bars falmer bar, eastslope, park village and my fave the grapevine you will deffiantely like one of them as they all have a very different atmosphere. There is food provided in cafeteria style restraunts on both campuses but nothing classy. There is also the hothouse which is the club on the sussex campus.
     
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    fank you, macca, that wuz very elpful!
     
  13. Dr.Mayhem

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    Im in that year below you :p and there were only 4-5 offers of that standard (if that, I think im counting some ppl twice lol)

    You can expect the standard offer, and do not be upset if you dont get the lower offer as that is for truly exceptional people...

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    On another note, the interviews are great, but please people, think about what you said on your PS! They WILL ask you from that, so many people slipped up on the PS last year by simply not reading it to remember what they said on it - make sure you can expand on every point there, and take your time if they give you something you can't answer, be calm and think, and if you really can't give it a shot, admit it - ''I'm sorry, I don't know the answer''

    They were great for me, chilled out, cool, and just made me even more keen for BSMS...so good luck all!
     
  14. flirtini

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    I have very fond memories of my interview at BSMS four years ago, when they were taking in their first intake. It was my first medical interview that year, so I was exceptionally nervous, but I have to say on the whole it went very well. I remember them asking me about my extra-curricular interests towards the end, something like, 'What did you learn from playing the part of Nancy in 'Oliver!' last year that could be applicable to your medical career?' They also asked me a question about a major medical milestone in 1948, which I tried to skirt around as I didn't know the answer at the time... turns out it was the birth of the NHS - so make sure you know your medical history!

    I got an offer from them a few weeks later of 320 UCAS points (ABB or AAC) and it also said in the letter how I had been highlighted as an exceptional candidate or something from the interview. Dunno if that ties in with the offer of AAB/ABB that some people have been referring to?

    Anyhow the 'exceptional' thing is pretty irrelevant now - I put BSMS down as insurance, and got into UCL as my firm choice... only to fail my resits and be kicked out of the med school 2 years later. Swings and roundabouts :p
     
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    aye.

    u ave weathered the storm and come back briter, u poor macca. your boat is at the shore now...
    respect, and i ope you get an offer soon!
     
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    and ere is an elpful song to cheer you up ...


    "Look at ma life,
    Look at ma 'eart.
    i 'ave seen them fall apart. :(
    Now i'm ready to rise again
    Look at ma 'opes
    Look at ma dreamz.
    i'm building bridges from these scenes. :)

    Now i'm ready.... to rise again
    ....
    "

    ~Gabrielle, Rise
     
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  17. flirtini

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    I realised my inference that I got a lower grade offer is actually crap... I forgot when I first applied the asking grades were only ABB (aka 320 UCAS points) as opposed to AAB these days - so sorry about any confusion! And I quote (from the acceptance letter): '...You might like to know that the overall mark awarded to you by our interview panel was close to the maximum possible.' Which was nice to know. Unless, of course, they say that to every student they accept :)
     
  18. randdom

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    They deffinately didn't say that in my acceptance letter :) I am sure that if they said it they meant it.

    Am I right in thinking that you finished your first year at ucl successfully then failed your second and then transfered onto a different course? It must take a lot of strenghth to reapply to medical school and wish you all the luck in the world reguarding your application.

    Rachel
     
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    You are pretty much spot-on.

    Got through to the end of the pre-clinical phase at UCL, failed the first set of exams in May, got the notification on my birthday in June :( then also failed 2 of the resit exams three weeks later. UCL operates this viva system at that stage, which I got full marks in, but heck - they decided to get rid of me anyway as apparently I wasn't worth a third attempt (i.e. retaking the whole year). And that's despite having ext. circumstances...

    The UCL med school seem very happy to 'discharge' several of their failed students every year, leaving the rest of the Life Sciences faculty in a bit of a quandry about having to fit them in. I only got successfully transferred to Biomed second year because I complained to the Registry about the way I was being treated; before that, I was literally in no man's land and didn't even know whether I would still be a student.

    What annoyed me even more, though, was how another girl who failed and got kicked out with me effectively smuggled her way back in, through a cocktail of deceit and lies (apparently claiming to have been pregnant then getting an abortion during her exams). Easy stuff when your dad's a doctor and can medically substantiate such nonsense... so she got her third attempt and later passed. Never ceased to shock me how low people would go to do medicine :(

    However - yes I am reapplying, partly because I know deep down I can do it, and partly because I couldn't live with the regret if I didn't try just one final time. If all else fails, I have a backup in teaching :D
     
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    that appened a lot in the cut-loss med skools in 2002...
     

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